US spy chief: Surveillance programme thwarted attacks

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US spy chief in charge of a leaked programme to gather and analyse Internet and phone data defended the intelligence tactic on Wednesday, insisting it had helped thwart dozens of terror attacks.

Facing sceptical questions from lawmakers after a rogue technician revealed the secret operation, National Security Agency chief General Keith Alexander insisted it operates under proper legislative and judicial oversight.

"It's classified but it's dozens of terrorist events that these have helped prevent," he told the hearing, the first time he had been questioned in public since 29-year-old former contractor Edward Snowden spilled the beans.

"I want the American people to know that we're being transparent in here," he insisted, warning that "the trust of the American people" was a "sacred requirement" if his agency was to be able to do its job.

Asked if the light shone on the programmes could help terrorists avoid surveillance, Alexander said: "They will get through, and Americans will die."

"Great harm has already been done by opening this up. The consequence I believe is our security has been jeopardized," he warned.

Mr Snowden, a technician seconded by a private contractor to an NSA base in Hawaii, disappeared last month after downloading a cache of secret documents and surfaced at the weekend in Hong Kong to give media interviews.

He embarrassed and infuriated President Barack Obama's administration by revealing that the NSA had gathered call log records for millions of American phone subscribers and targeted the Internet data of foreign web users.

The leaks triggered a row over privacy and the limits of executive power in the digital age, as Mr Snowden said had been his intention, but also calls for the leaker to be arrested and sent home to face trial.

Mr Snowden said on Wednesday in an interview with Hong Kong daily the South China Morning Post he would resist any attempt to extradite him and accused the NSA of carrying out tens of thousands of hacking attacks worldwide.

Many in the United States and beyond hailed Snowden as a whistleblower who carried out an act of civil disobedience to expose government overreach and defend the privacy of innocent web users from government snooping.

Others, including spy chiefs and some senior lawmakers, have branded Mr Snowden a traitor who sold out a system that serves to protect Americans.

Several investigations are underway and the leaker may yet face criminal charges, but in the meantime debate is raging about the legality and utility of the NSA's broad-brush approach to sweeping up private data.

"How do we get from reasonable grounds... to all phone records, all the time, all locations?" demanded Senator Jeff Merkley, a longtime opponent of giving the government broad secret surveillance powers.

Holding up his own phone, he asked Gen Alexander: "What authority gave you the grounds for acquiring my cell phone data?" Gen Alexander repeated the administration's defence that, while NSA did gather large quantities of telephone metadata, it could not mine the logs to target a specific user without an order from a secret court.

"We do not see a trade-off between security and liberty," he said, insisting that the NSA and US Cyber Command are "deeply committed to compliance with the law and the protection of privacy rights."

"I do think what we're doing does protect American civil liberties and privacy," he protested, claiming he welcomed the "debate" sparked by the leaks: "The American people need to understand what we're doing."

Senator Mark Udall expressed scepticism at this nod to openness.

"It's very, very difficult, I think, to have a transparent debate about a secret programme written by a secret court, issuing secret court orders based on secret interpretations of the law," he said.

In Hong Kong, Mr Snowden was unrepentant.

"I'm neither traitor nor hero. I'm an American," he said.

Mr Snowden told the South China Morning Post there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, targeting powerful "network backbones" that can yield access to hundreds of thousands of individual computers.

There were hundreds of targets in mainland China and Hong Kong, he was quoted as saying, alleging this exposed "the hypocrisy of the US government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure."

Mr Snowden accused the US government of "trying to bully" Hong Kong into expelling him before he can reveal details of alleged NSA snooping on communications inside the Chinese financial and trading hub.

But he pledged to resist any extradition attempt.

"I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the US government in the courts, because I have faith in HK's rule of law," he said, according to the paper.

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